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Back in September '99 sr111 board members asked an actual airline mechanic (not associated with swissair)to comment from his perspective on what the process of the installation of the IFEN might have been like. If I remember correctly he hadn't seen van Beveren's translated articles which revealed additional information regarding SBA (Santa Barbara Aerospace) or for that matter information about Hollingsead (the actual installers). Barb. I will address the comments in several sections, with the main question you indicated addressed last. Keep in mind that these are only my humble thoughts on these issues and others may have different experiences or opinions. Also, that these views are as I know them with the few US airlines I have worked with or know people at. SwissAir could very well operate completely differently. ================================== Regarding which bus the IFE was wired into: From their point of view: "why would the pilots need to know that?" Sure,they would know about the IFE being installed, what breakers it was supposedly hooked to, and how to operate it. But I doubt they would have been told specifically that it was connected to the wrong bus. My experience with pilots has been exactly as Stuart says. I've found myself asking them about technical specifics (beyond the cockpit indications), and usually, they reply to the effect that they just fly'em, not fix'em, which is my job. As example, I have worked shifts where I was part of the crew meeting the aircraft as they came into the gate. We are usually advised ahead of time via aircraft-to-operations communications (ACARS) if they encountered any problems in flight, so we usually have a good idea of what to expect in terms of any problems before they are even on the ground. But even so, we still need to query the crew about specifics. If they received some kind of fault message or trouble light, we have to ask about the circumstances it occurred under, and what they did, and if, or how they remedied it. They sometimes try to get technical, but mostly once the discussion gets "out of the cockpit", so to speak, they are pretty much just nodding along to get me back into a more familiar area for them (the cockpit). Please don't interpret this as saying they are ignorant or complacent. Far from it! But just as I know how to "fix'em", I don't really know how to "fly'em". I know the principles, and how all the equipment "works", but I don't have the knowledge or the background of all the necessary technical specifics to be a pilot. It's too much to expect me, or a pilot to maintain a professional expertise level of proficiency in both fields at the same time. The only pilots I really know of who do fly'em and fix'em are mechanics who have a private pilots license in general aviation and fly their own small planes. Although I did know an avionics mechanic about 5 years ago who had experience flying C-130's for several years in the military. He did eventually get into another airline in pilot training, but he is the only exception I personally know of who is a commercial pilot with real, practical experience and knowledge in aircraft mtc. The road to being a commercial pilot is usually by one of two ways. Through the military, or through a professional pilot training school. There are several of these around the country, and going this route is stressful and expensive. Either way, the focus is on flying, not fixing, and I see this same focus show in their professional attitudes every day. Here's a link to one of the really popular pilot schools. http://www.embryriddle.com/ They also have programs in ATC and Aviation Mtc. Another resource for finding out about how to become a pilot is ALPA's website. http://alpa.org/internet/cpb/index.htm target=new> Getting back to the question of how much information is given the pilots about the mtc technicals; There IS a sharing of information between the maintenance and flight operations divisions, but at an administration level. From there the info is filtered down through directors, managers, supervisors, etc, so that only the portions relevant to flying the planes are passed on to the pilots in the forms of bulletins, procedures, checklists, and revisions to their manuals. In this fashion, just as Stuart outlined, the pilots are not inundated in an information overload. If they had to memorize EVERY miniscule technical detail of every document from maintenance (in addition to the MANY general flying bulletins they receive), their minds wouldn't be able to focus on the flying part of flying. It also works the other way. The exchange of information from the flight operations division to the maintenance personnel is also filtered down by maintenance management so that only the portions of the "flying" bulletins which concerns maintenance procedures eventually makes it down to the maintenance technicians in the form of bulletins, and manual revisions. ================================== However, I imagine that this fact SHOULD have been noted in the aircraft's maintenance records, so at least the mechanics SHOULD have known about it. The maintenance records for each aircraft should indicate that the system had been installed as instructed, and in accordance with (IAW) engineering document #1234. In other words, the installation technicians would have attributed procedural responsibility for their work to having followed the instructions outlined in the "approved" document which authorized and specified the system's installation. If the installation document says to install it wired to "A" bus, and the mechanic installs it wired to "B" bus, then the incorrect installation is the mechanic's fault (and maybe more than one were involved), along with his supervisor, the airline's mtc inspector, and the final authority (in the U.S. it would be an FAA inspector) who would have ALL needed to have signed off on this kind of installation as performed to specifications and to be airworthy before the aircraft could be put back into regular revenue service. But if the document specifies the "B" bus, and the mechanic wires it to the "B" bus (as instructed by the authorized installation document), but really this turns out to be the wrong bus to use, then fault goes back to the original installation document, which includes its author, his supervisor and the authority who approved it (internal inspector, and maybe the FAA if they signed off on the engineering paperwork). There is a mtc logbook on each aircraft which must be kept current on each aspect of mtc which has been performed on that aircraft. Even down to a record of how much oil each engine is serviced with at the gate in between flights. In the case of a major installation like an IFE, the record would be initiated by saying something like "Replacement of A passenger entertainment system with B system needed IAW engineering document #1234." The action performed would then show "A entertainment system removed and B system installed IAW engineering document #1234. B system operationally tested per AMM 23-30-XX-500, inspected per AMM 23-30-XX-600, and approved for service." It would then show the appropriate authorization signatures and license numbers for the approving authority (like a supervisor or inspector if warranted). There would not be any other info kept in the aircraft mtc logbook specific to this installation. The mechanics can, however, access that engineering document #1234 if they need to. Their access to it will vary from airline to airline, but usually, they don't need to see it anyway. The info they will need will be how to maintain an already installed system, and this info will be located in the mtc manuals. Aircraft Mtc Manuals are set up according to a set of standards devised by the Air Transport Association. http://www.air-transport.org/ In this system (basic overview), any time a mechanic needs to find anything in the mtc manuals, or make a reference to it in his paperwork it is indexed numerically with this system. The mtc manual is divided into 5 main sections. Section 1 - Aircraft General Section 2 - Airframe Systems Section 3 - Structures Section 4 - Power Plant Section 5 - Miscellaneous For each item in the mtc manual, it will contain passages indexed according to what they relate to by CHAPTER: Sect 1 Chapt - Description 05 - MTC CHECKS 06 - DIMENSIONS & AREAS 07 - LIFTING & SHORING 08 - LEVELING & WEIGHING 09 - TOWING & TAXIING 10 - PARKING & MOORING 11 - REQUIRED PLACARDS 12 - SERVICING Sect 2 20 - STANDARD PRACTICES, AIRFRAME 21 - AIR CONDITIONING 22 - AUTO FLIGHT 23 - COMMUNICATIONS 24 - ELECTRICAL POWER 25 - EQUIP & FURNISHINGS26 - FIRE PROTECTION 27 - FLIGHT CONTROLS 28 - FUEL etc, etc, etc, etc...... Within each of these chapters, the information is then broken down again into sub-directories of SECTIONS. Here's an example from Chapt 26 (a really Short one): 10 Fire Detection System -11 Engine Fire Detection -12 APU Fire Detection System -13 Lavatory Smoke Detection System -14 Lower Cargo Fire Detection System 20 Fire Extinguishing System -21 Engine and APU Fire Extinguishing -22 Lower Cargo Fire Extinguishing -24 Portable Fire Extinguishing -25 Lavatory Disposable Fire Extinguishing A third number group follows which is established by the manufacturer to itemize info within the sections. But then the info is assigned another number (SUBJECT) according to what it addresses: 000 - DESCRIPTION & OPERATION 100 - TROUBLE SHOOTING 200 - MAINTENANCE PRACTICES 300 - SERVICING 400 - REMOVAL / INSTALLATION 500 - ADJUSTMENT / TESTING 600 - INSPECTION / CHECK 700 - CLEANING / PAINTING800 - APPROVED REPAIRS 900 - DEACTIVATION / REACTIVATION So, the code for where to find the procedure to replace a faulty lavatory smoke detector would be to look in 26-13-??-400 of the AMM. This generally describes how the aircraft mtc manuals are coded to standardize how the information is stored and referenced. Going by this, you might be able to see that something like maintenance of the IFE system will be broken up and scattered around a lot of places (but the majority in Chap 23). In the aircraft mtc manual, there wouldn't be any one, single place where the ENTIRE IFE system is addressed as a whole, complete unit in full detail. And it would even have portions of it addressed in different manuals, too. Finding out exactly how it is wired (which bus, and where it connects in) would not even be in the "aircraft" mtc manual, but in the wiring diagram manual (WDM). Which is a manual of schematics and info on the wiring and electrical systems. However, some airlines have internal dedicated support "repair shops" whose sole functions will be devoted entirely to a single component or system. For instance, many airlines will have a shop dedicated to avionics and communications/entertainment systems. These shops will have "Component Mtc Manuals" which are complete manuals from the individual manufacturers of these "after market" components on how to repair them from the simplest repair, all the way to a complete rebuild of the component. I have doubts SwissAir would have shop authority to do ANY real maintenance to the IFE systems. And I believe any component mtc manuals they have for it will simply be for reference and not for performing actual mtc on the systems (my humble guess). The usual arrangement for a complicated system like this, is for the manufacturer (IFT) to have a mtc contract with the customer (SwissAir) in which SwissAir will have authority for simple troubleshooting, replacement of simple components, and selective deactivation/reactivation as needed, but they (IFT) are responsible for any major work needed. Especially regarding anything which might involve the whole fleet like software updates, system reconfigurations, fleetwide hardware changes, etc. In the mtc contract case, IFT would still be held accountable for the system, but the argument could still be made that SwissAir is ultimately responsible for everything on the planes they fly. It's really a muddy area with this kind of arrangement, and I just don't know the legal particulars, myself (just fix'em, remember). Perfect example: I've done work on aircraft with on-board passenger phone systems and I was not authorized to actually do ANY mtc to the phone system other than troubleshoot via a system master control panel. This was due to the service contract our airline had with that phone service provider. ANYTHING associated with taking any part of the system apart or replacing components required a call to the their local Service Rep (they kept one on call AT the airport) to be called out to check the system and fix it, then sign it off in the mtc logbook. If it wasn't possible to get a rep out, then the phone system was usually locked out (deactivated) and placed on the mtc deferred list, to be fixed at the next station with an on duty service rep available who could fix it and sign it off for service. Back to the issue of the installation engineering documents. Don't get me wrong. It's understood that mistakes can exist in the "approved" installation documents, and believe me, if I was following one that said to install the wings upside down, I would go ask some questions, but sometimes when you are part of a large, possibly multi-shift crew, some things just aren't as obvious as you might think. I'm not making excuses for the IFE's incorrect installation (if it really was installed incorrectly), but without firsthand knowledge of how that system was installed and maintained, I'm staying open to all the possibilities. I'm also leaving the door open to the possibility Swissair’s own mtc technicians weren't any part of the installation process (as I have read reports of), and therefore wouldn't technically be responsible for a mistake in the actual installation (like incorrect wiring procedures). Going back up, and re-reading the question, (sorry to have gotten so in depth), deciding the level of awareness he is asking about depends on which "mechanics" he is referring to and which mechanics ultimately did the actual installation. IFT's? Or Swissair’s? AND whether or not there is/was any contractual agreement with IFT for mtc of the system? I know this probably isn't the exact answer you were looking for, but hopefully the extensive explanation I detailed as a lead in shows why. ================================== Do you know if those records are available in the public domain, or have they been subpoenaed, or cannot be released due to being part of investigation? It would be very interesting to find out. I am very certain the actual mtc records for that aircraft would NOT be readily available to the public. If they have even been recorded electronically (my airline does this, but not all airlines are at the same level of technology regarding record keeping), then you can be sure they would only be accessible to Swissair’s internal computer network, and even then probably still protected through access privileges. As I understand it, after an accident, representatives of the investigating authority will personally show up at the airline and ask to see ALL records for that aircraft. I don't know if they take the original documents (that's my guess) or copies. If they DO take the originals, I don't know if the airline keeps a copy of all the documents taken(again, I would guess so), or not. Getting copies via subpoena (discovery?) of mtc documents, would probably mean going to the investigation authority if they have taken the "original" documents. I just don't have any particular experience on this one. Sorry I do not know more about the legal parts of this issue, I can only guess. But it's a sure bet that the mtc records would not be available via any on-line sources, and that even obtaining legal copies of them (as needed in litigation) could likely be subject to going through the accident investigation authority for legally acceptable copies. As an aside; In the usual case that many of the agencies responsible for investigating a crash are usually responsible to the public for establishing that they are performing a thorough, and extensive investigation (TSB, NTSB, etc.), they may decide to publicly release certain mtc records details as a show of good faith. This (I suspect) is also done to address media speculation when it arises, as we saw with IFT and the leaks which pertained to the TSB investigating their system and its installation. The media is always asking first about the mtc records of the aircraft after an accident, and the investigating authority is sensitive to appeasing the press's persistence to get answers to these questions. One last thought I will finish with on the bus issue. If it turns out the IFE was designed to use the wrong bus, then in my opinion this error goes back to the designer, and engineering approval of the design documents. Even if the installer(s) followed the installation instructions to install it to the wrong bus, the original error and fault is still upstream of the installation in this case. If the cause is found to be the routing of Tefzil and Kapton wires together, then this (to me)is most likely the installer's fault. If the installation document specified this routing, then a share of fault does go back to the designer and approving agencies, but in this case, the installation technicians should have known well enough to not mix these wires together in a routing bundle. This situation goes back to my example of the upside down wings installation. This is just as obvious to me. Just my humble opinions. ________________________________________________ | |||
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Reading this type of information is helpful in getting a rounded perspective on what may - or may not - have happened. Thanks for providing it. | ||||
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You're welcome Ivy. Since the mechanic was nice enough to explain how the process works regarding add ons, other information regarding the IFEN came to light. If you have an opportunity, check out the threads that have information from the journalist van beveren as well as the David Evan's interview with the FAA. The FAA in that interview states clearly that the IFEN should never have been installed on the MD-11 because it used too much power. Also it clearly states in the 1996 DOT report on gambling that the system should not be installed into essentials. If that isn't ironic enough, it even mentions IFT (the designer of this system)and their new 'safe' system(go figure). Also, check out the report the FAA wrote following the crash regarding the IFEN. The airline mechanic's comments are very helpful but don't tell the whole story. I also want to mention that I heard a rumor a long time ago that srtechnics did actually participate in the installation of this system to some degree. That I cannot verify but the source was decent. Hopefully more information will be exposed in the future. | ||||
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Thanks BF. Will do. | ||||
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